So sure Kaido will die but it’s not easy to kill Kaido, just Whitebeard caused big damage for Marines even he is sick and did all of this! so does Whitebeard; while Teach and Akainu die; Summary. Whitebeard saying he can't be the strongest forever means he knows he will die at Marineford, not that he isn't CURRENTLY the strongest. Driving Question: Ultimately what Ace wanted in this life and what caused him to keep on living is revealed to be the answer to this one question: Did he deserve to be born? Being prepared for death … But overall, this is just what I think, I love how the story's actually played out for the most part, and I definitely don't think this is any better, but I'd like to hear what you guys think too, and if it's any good, I might try this again with another topic next break week. Why Whitebeard won the Battle of Marineford vs the World Government When we look at why Whitebeard went to Marineford and not to Wano, the most obvious aspect is Ace was alive, Oden was long dead. Dread Pirate. Many fans think it was foolish of Ace to attack Akainu, but when his father was being disrespected, he had every right to go for it. Welcome to r/OnePiece, the community for Eiichiro Oda's manga and anime series One Piece. The first one is something I've seen every now and then since I've been here, but not often, and basically: So to get into it, what probably doesn't change? Oden was dead. We don’t experience many deaths in One Piece, but when we do they are made to count. If you've just set sail with the Straw Hat Pirates, be wary of spoilers on this subreddit! The Ace novel does actually imply if not outright state that Kaido > Old Beard, it states Whitebeard was the greatest at piracy but in a fight Kaido would win. Seeing that Kaido will not allow him to attack Whitebeard, Kaido retreated while Shanks followed Whitebeard to Marineford. It is one thing attacking pirates and killing them, but attacking your compatriots is something that a lowly person would do. Asadora! Akainu is among the most hated characters in the series and many fans can easily back up their claim. Akainu has done some horrible things and in this post, we will discuss all the horrible things that he has done. A ship that was carrying the civilians of Ohara was leaving the island, but Akainu opened fire on the ship. Whitebeard still dies - Ace is wounded heavily vs Akainu, but Whitebeard saves him in this scenario, but during the Akainu vs Whitebeard fight, Blackbeard takes over. If I keep Ace alive, we can do a bit of thematics here, and have Sabo show up and obtain Marco's fruit (as Marco definitely does die on Wano before Luffy shows up) and the brothers therefore have one of each fruit. So I'm really just doing this cause it's an off week, and I want to think of how the story would have been affected had certain elements changed. The Whitebeard Pirates came to Marineford to save Ace from being executed. Ace got in the way of Akainu's attack that would have killed his little brother. Marco the Phoenix was the 1st division commander of the Whitebeard Pirates. This is absolutely disgraceful as a Marine, who is supposed to protect the civilians and not kill them. Akainu used his skills to manipulate Squard into believing that Whitebeard only cared about Ace. If he never had the fruit from the start he would be about equal. I could be far from the Marineford arc, but I've heard from many people that the white beard arc is one of the most amazing arcs in one piece or in anime history. Retired Staff. But who Portgas D Ace really was? #onepiece #bestanimeWhitebeard shows up at marineford to save Ace from execution. Akainu seemed unbeatable at times and currently, he is one of the most powerful characters in the series, but when he was up against Whitebeard he was getting washed. Despite this, there was not a single scar on Whitebeard’s back showing cowardice. In this post, we will be ranking the top 10 episodes of the Marineford arc based on IMDb ratings. The One Piece seems to be a cursed 'treasure' that comes with an infamous title - whoever is made 'King of the Pirates' isn't king for very long. Whitebeard still dies - Ace is wounded heavily vs Akainu, but Whitebeard saves him in this scenario, but during the Akainu vs Whitebeard fight, Blackbeard takes over. So to get into it, what probably doesn't change? Somewhere along their journey, hi… Alternate Universe - Everyone Lives/Nobody Dies; Marineford Arc; Because this arc broke me; It needs fixing; So I'm fixing it; For Me; and for poor Tama; so screw the original author; Portgas D. Ace Lives; so does Whitebeard ; while Teach and Akainu die; Summary. After Whitebeard was killed, it was clear that the Navy had the upper hand. When the cloth was taken, Blackbeard already possessed the gura-gura no mi. End of an Age: The characters all state it before the war even begins. Seems like Toei decided to update Blackbeard’s crew to include the new additions. He then storms into Marineford alone and uses the Gura Gura no mi with its FULL power to complete Whitebeard’s fight and wreck Marineford down to dust. He killed all the innocent people, who were on the ship. You do get 3D2Y, but with Ace there as well. Main Summary Marineford Arc has the following tropes From the East Blue to the New World, anything related to the world of One Piece belongs here! We first saw this after Whitebeard’s death in the Marineford arc. Language: ... Well, Marineford is never going to be the same after an irate Master of Death decides to pop in to stop an execution. He was known as the "Strongest Man in the World" even before Gol D. Roger's death, and this reputation made him the most feared and respected person in the world. When Whitebeard dies, Marine is fighting a harvest battle against Whitebeard Pirates. However, Akainu was still chasing them. Jinbe, however, caused an outrage in the headquarters in his refusal to cooperate, and was transferred to Impel Down. When Coby asked the war to be stopped, Akainu just attacked him. The WB pirates have their hands full with the other Admirals, and can't interfere. The WB pirates have their hands full with the other Admirals, and can't interfere. Luffy still escapes with Law - both Luffy and Ace are heavily wounded, and Law kinda just showed up on a whim anyways right? After seeing Ace die in front of his very own eyes, Luffy suffered a mental breakdown and he couldn't think clearly. A note on spoilers: If you haven't seen the Marineford arc yet, this interview does contain major plot points. A one-stop shop for all things video games. Eye Color: Black Hair Color: Blonde Status: Alive Powers and Abilities: Class: Attack Potency: At least Mountain level Speed: High Hypersoniccombat and reaction speeds Lifting Strength: At least Class 100 Striking Strength: At least Class PJ Durability: Small Island level, po… All the citizens of Dressrosa rejoiced as the reign of the cruel Shichibukai came to an end. We saw this at Marineford when Akainu attacked Marines, who didn't want to fight. It was quite a tragic death, in hindsight, it was quite avoidable. Akainu is a stern follower of 'Absolute Justice,' and he is very unlikely to spare the life of any pirate. Edward Newgate, A.K.A. I do think Ace ultimately dies in this story, but I do kind of like the idea of him being able to liberate Tama and Wano along with Luffy. Great moment, and the fact Whitebeard “dies standing” was a great final act of strength and defiance. We don’t experience many deaths in One Piece, but when we do they are made to count. Well I must have gone blind then since all I saw in the latest 200 pages was Whitebeard talk and Whitebeard talk alone, which is different from wanting to avoid discussing storytelling/not being invested into it. Garp dies. Ace was a fan favorite and the nicest pirates. This is without a doubt the worst thing that Akainu did. This happened after Luffy had taken down Doflamingo at Dressrosa. Dec 28, 2020 #11 Whitebeard has tailored his fighting style to match the fruit. Kaido said he wants a big war to die in, That is what is going to happen actually, Yonko Big Mom vs Kaido also Luffy there, Law, X-Drake, their crews, Luffy’s allies and more. That does not seem like something Oda would want for his protagonist who is trying to be the King of the Pirates. 2. Jun 30, 2020 #32 Extravlad said: Whitebeard saying he can't be the strongest forever means he knows he will die at Marineford, not that he isn't CURRENTLY the strongest. Akainu tried to put up a fight, but it was all in vain. The traitor of the Whitebeard Pirates." Akainu had not only manipulated Squard, but he also insulted Whitebeard several times. This was one of the world's most pivotal events. Alternate Universe - Everyone Lives/Nobody Dies; Marineford Arc; Because this arc broke me; It needs fixing; So I'm fixing it; For Me; and for poor Tama; so screw the original author; Portgas D. Ace Lives; so does Whitebeard; while Teach and Akainu die ; Summary. There was a chance to save one, and not the other. NEXT: 5 Characters Who Will Join The Straw Hat Grand Fleet (& 5 Who Won't). Blackbeard and co. were giving them a tough time and Akainu didn't seem to notice or care. Nothing gets in or out. Luffy still goes to PH and allies with Law. There is nothing worse for a father than to be betrayed by his own son. After Akainu realized that he couldn't beat Whitebeard, he just hid underground until Whitebeard was killed. I can't decide if Ace dies before Luffy gets there or not though. Big war. 10 Anime Heroes Everyone Forgets Were Introduced As Villains, One Piece: The 10 Worst Things Akainu Did, Ranked, 10 One Piece Characters Who Are Based On Real Life Pirates, One Piece: 10 Fights That Might Happen In Wano Arc, One Piece: The Strongest Members Of The Heart Pirates, Ranked According To Strength, 5 Characters Who Will Join The Straw Hat Grand Fleet (& 5 Who Won't), My Hero Academia: 10 Plot Twists Fan Never Saw Coming, Black Lagoon: 10 Hidden Details About The Anime Characters Everyone Completely Missed. He was successful in freeing Ace, but Ace sacrificed his life to save Luffy's life. There was a chance to save one, and not the other. They are all outcasts, but if push comes to shove, they'll fight for one another till the end, even if it means death. Canute87 Nuke Imminent. That does not seem like something Oda would want for his protagonist who is trying to be the King of the Pirates. He was set to be executed by Marines, but with the combined efforts of Luffy and co. he was set free. Whitebeard makes a declaration to the world and then dies. If Luffy faces adversity like at Marineford, there is always that chance that Shanks can show up and save the day. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. They are all outcasts, but if push comes to shove, they'll fight for one another till the end, even if it means death. Jinbei still joins Luffy, after running into him in Fishman Island, I imagine he'd be in Udon as well, along with Kid. His death signalled the start of … At the age of 72, Edward Newgate, the equal of even the "King of the Pirates", the great captain of the Whitebeard Pirates, himself, known as Whitebeard died in battle at the bay of Marineford. ... Whitebeard was the strongest in Marineford for the few seconds that he got angry at Akainu. Press J to jump to the feed. Throughout the Battle of Marineford, Whitebeard received 267 sword wounds, 152 gunshot wounds and 46 wounds from cannonballs — adding up to a total of 465 injuries at the time of death. Ace meets Rayleigh - and while this does nothing to affect how he feels about Whitebeard, I do think he'd at least listen to Rayleigh and be more at peace about Roger. After the death of Whitebeard, the Whitebeard Pirates were running away as it was the final wish of their captain. Its Blackbeard. It is without a doubt, the most emotional scene in One Piece. However, things are different when we are talking about Akainu. Over the years, I have grown very fond of it and, now it is my passion. Akainu is among the most hated characters in One Piece, and there are plenty of reasons for so many fans to hate him. The WB pirates have their hands full with the other Admirals, and can't interfere. "What if Ace hadn't died in Marineford?" Well, the citizens of Dressrosa were protecting him and Fujitora couldn't really do anything about it. He deeply respected Whitebeard, but Akainu manipulated him at Marineford. Luffy meets Ace and Sabo in Dressrosa - Ace is there because he heard the BB pirates were there (though it's only Burgess) and Sabo is there on Revolutionary business per usual. So one is about preserving family, and the other … … Then another fleet popped up, behind that one, bearing the Whitebeard symbol. "What if Ace hadn't died in Marineford?" Third Party Stops Attack : Shanks stops Sakazuki's attempt to kill Koby, blocking his magma fist with a sword. The carnage on all sides might still lead to Coby being involved, so I imagine that part playing out the same. Alternate Universe - Everyone Lives/Nobody Dies; Marineford Arc; Because this arc broke me; It needs fixing; So I'm fixing it; For Me; and for poor Tama; so screw the original author; Portgas D. Ace Lives; so does Whitebeard; while Teach and Akainu die; Summary Akainu, as we know, is a follower of 'Absolute Justice' and he is willing to execute each and every person who dares to stand in his way. Naruto: 10 Plot Points That Were Abandoned Before The Ending, Bleach: 10 Times Ichigo Met His Match (But Won Anyway), Negasonic Teenage Warhead: How Deadpool's BFF Really Entered the X-Men's World, Iron Fist - Heart of the Dragon #1 Celebrates the Marvel Martial Artist, Future State: Nightwing #1 Puts the Boy Wonder Back in the Spotlight, Future State: Superman - Worlds of War #1 Expands the Hero's Legacy, Future State: Immortal Wonder Woman #1 Is a Neon-Lit Fantasy. As the Marines panic, Doflamingo laughs about how insane Whitebeard is, while Hancock continues to care only for Luffy's safety. He also attacked Coby, who was distraught by the astounding number of casualties. He'll save Luffy, and more notably here, Ace. If it wasn't for Shanks, Coby would have been dead. It was quite a tragic death, in hindsight, it was quite avoidable. Then, years later, I went on to read the manga from the beginning and came to a very different conclusion. To sum it up, Ace and Whitebeard die, and Blackbeard manages to take Whitebeard's power from his body and claim it as his own. Sengoku was ready to commit seppuku. He was a member of the Yonko that ruled over the New World until his death during the Battle of Marineford. 1 Depicts a Vibrant Past... and an Already-Dated Future? Today we’re gonna theorize about what possibly happened in the Shanks vs Kaido skirmish before the Marineford war.. We all know that when Kaido heard that Whitebeard was going to attack Marineford to rescue Ace, he wanted to go there as well and wreak havoc.. Dec 18, 2020 #7,264. Nothing gets in or out. So far I really enjoy One Piece, and i'm in the Post- Enies lobby arc. The main reason why Shanks will die in One Piece. The fourteenth season of the One Piece anime series was produced by Toei Animation, and directed by Hiroaki Miyamoto.The season began broadcasting in Japan on Fuji Television on July 18, 2010 and ended on September 25, 2011. Ace had been handed to the Marines by Blackbeard, who gained the position of a Shichibukai in return. Ace dies protecting Luffy, and becomes the first major confirmed fatality outside the flashbacks, discrediting 'No one dies in One Piece'. Since when does Straw Hat have a relation to the Whitebeards?" He went back and attacked Akainu. Whitebeard is the pirate closest to obtaining the "One Piece" treasure in the entire world, and along with a couple of decades worth of experience, is the single most-dangerous pirate in his world. One of the saddest moments in the whole anime series, is when in One Piece Ace dies. When Blackbeard appears at Marineford to publicly betray them, and when Whitebeard asserts that One Piece's really does exist, the whole world sees it too. You get Ace vs Burgess and Sabo vs Fujitora, and the rest of Dressrosa plays out largely the same. "Oh look. Bigmom does not have better feats than Whitebeard and neither does Kaido. MarineFord Arc: This was the best arc for me in whole One Piece till the Dressrosa Arc came. convict He who Greets with Fire. The audience was full of shouting sounds, the impact of the collision, and a moment of noise. The Whitebeard Pirates then head to Wano, faceoff against the Beast Pirates, and lose. To sum it up, Ace and Whitebeard die, and Blackbeard manages to take Whitebeard's power from his body and claim it as his own. This manga does not care about that stuff. I don’t think Luffy will defeat Blackbeard like other villains, it doesn’t mean they won’t fight. Edward Newgate, better known by his epithet "Whitebeard", was the captain of the Whitebeard Pirates and considered to be the most powerful of the Four Emperors ruling over the New World (the second half of the Grand Line), and the only person to have ever battled the Pirate King to a draw. File:Ace before the execution.png. RELATED: One Piece: 10 Fights That Might Happen In Wano Arc. He was a vice-admiral when Ohara was destroyed by a Buster… They would fight and butt heads often, to the point where he got to know certain members of his crew, like Shanks and Buggy. Secondly, it would have given him the possibility to at last die, considering how many powerful characters were there. Conversely, when he went to Marineford, Ace was alive. As many fans would know, Ace died in the Marineford War protecting Luffy from being killed. This was confirmed by pirates and Marines alike. However, this ability does not seem to specifically work on Blackbeard alone. Whitebeard, died shortly after confirming Rodger's rumor. If he never had the fruit from the start he would be about equal. Is expected … Squard was tricked into believing it and he stabbed Whitebeard because of it. My favorite manga is Berserk. It seems like there was a small change in the part that has Blackbeard and his crew. Master OF Haki said: It is possible that we can get more info abou This would have resulted in an even more broad war, between the Whitebeards, Kaido’s crew and the World Government. what about Kaido. He continued to bully them, but he was ignoring the fact that Sengoku and co. were dealing with a bigger threat now. 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